TIME LINE FOR WILLIAM WEST (B. 1752)
[As compiled by Ron Roy... any additions, corrections or questions are welcome! "WW = William West (b. 1752)]
1752 – William West (WW) born [WW Rev War Pension App Files]
1772 – SEP 23 – William West private in Captain Jeduthan Harper’s Company of the Chatham County militia. Listed in that Company with him are Thomas West Sr, Thomas West Jr, Ignatius West, and (in another company) Richard West. At this time William West is a minor 20 years of age (indicating a likelihood that he was still living with or near his parents and/or close relatives) [Transcription of the Records of Chatham Co Court of Pleas line http://www.ncgenweb.us/chatham/militia.htm [2] ]
1774 – AUG – WW appears in Chatham court Minutes as plaintiff agst David Davis [Laird and Jackson 13, Bens NC Commentary]
1779 – AUG 15 - WW Chain Carrier with Ignatius West Jr for survey of grant of 400 ac to Ignatius West(the later is Ignatius West Jr also as per the deed of disposition in 1784)
1779 – AUG 30 - WW Chain Carrier with Ignatius West Jr for survey of grant to Ignatius West (the later is also Jr also as per the deed of disposition in 1784)
1781 – APR – WW joins Rev Forces while living in Chatham Co [WW Rev War Pension App Files]
1783 – OCT – 1 – WW Received money in Hillsborough Dist for
services in Rev War [NC Rev. War Voucher No. 5733, Bens NC Commentary]
1784 – NOV – WW appears in Chatham Co court minutes road orders with Thomas and Ignatius West [Court Minutes Nov. 1781-May 1785 89, Bens NC Commentary]
1784 – DEC –13 – WW purchases of 150ac of land in Chatham Co on the S. side of Haw River, joining Elnathan Davis from Ignatius West Jr & wife Milley [Chatham Co Deed Bk C 355-356, Bens Commentary3.rtf]
1785 – FEB – 14 – WW witnessed deed from Ignatius West Jr & wife Milley To Ignatius West Sr (b. 1750) for 125 acres on the N. side of Dry Creek, joining Haw River. [Chatham Co Deed Bk C 355-356, Bens Commentary3.rtf]
1790 – WW Listed on Census of Chatham Co, NC 3 free white males under 16 years of age, 3 free white females, and 5 slaves. (This is the only listing for a William West in Chatham Co, NC) [1790 Census 86]
1792 – NOV – WW impaneled on a grand jury [Chatham Co Court Minutes 1790-1794, Bens NC Commentary]
1794 – NOV – WW impaneled on a jury [Chatham Co Court Minutes 1794-1800, Bens NC Commentary]
1795 – MAY – WW appears in Chatham Co court minutes road orders with Thomas West (Jr? or Sr?) and Ignatius West Sr (b. 1750) Richard West, Meachams, Fikes[Chatham Co Court Minutes 1794-1800, Bens NC Commentary]
1796 – NOV – WW appointed overseer of a road [Chatham Co Court Minutes 1794-1800 241, Bens NC Commentary]
1800 – WW Listed on Census of Chatham Co [1800 Census]
1807 – WW Sr.(first record showing more than one WW) Listed as
insolvent Tax for five polls [Chatham Co Court Minutes 1805-1811, Bens NC Commentary]
1807 – THRU 1817 - WW listed on the Logan Co Tax Lists [Logan Co Tax Lists, Bens NC Commentary]
1808 – NOV 28 - WW purchased 533 acres in Logan Co from John Neely [Logan Co KY Deed Book]
1808 – NOV 28 - WW purchased 27 acres in Logan Co from John Neely [Logan Co KY Deed Book]
1808 – FEB – WW (Sr or Jr not indicated & May not be Same) appointed an undetermined position in Capt. Edward Jones’ District for the year ensuing [Chatham Co Court Minutes 1805-1811 193, Bens NC Commentary]
1808 – John West appointed Overseer instead of WW Sr. [Chatham Co Court Minutes 1805-1811 195, Bens NC Commentary]
1810 – MAY 30 - WW has survey for 300 acres on N fk Red River [The Kentucky Land Grants Vol 1]
1810 – JUNE 11 - WW has survey for 100 acres on Red River [The Kentucky Land Grants Vol 1]
1811 – WW gives son Matthew West his power of attorney in Chatham NC [Chatham Co Deed Bk R p57, Bens NC Commentary]
1812 – Mar 16 – Lucy Fike paid to settle an account of a note given her by James West and William West - from the settlement of estate of James West. [ Logan Co, KY Will book A, p.223]
1816 – WW purchases land in Robertson Co, [Robertson Co Deed Bk M 112-114]
1823 – WW sold same land above in Robertson Co, [Robertson Co Deed Bk R 119]
1832 – AUG –16 – WW Applies for Rev War Pension, lives in,
Robertson Co, TN. This WW is 80 years old indicating that he is WW (b. 1752) [WW Rev War Pension App Files]
1833 – SEP – 20 – WW Applies for Rev War Pension, lives w/Oliver Edwards, Robertson Co, TN (Strong indication that Oliver Edwards was WW son-in-law) [WW Rev War Pension App Files]
1839 – OCT – WW moved from Robertson Co, TN To Simpson Co KY [WW Rev War Pension App Files]
1840 –WW Listed on the 1840 Census of Simpson Co, KY as Rev War Pensioner age 87 residing w/James Milliken
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The West and Ficklin Families
Contributed by Joy Ikelman, 2015.
Disclaimers apply.
Allied
Families of West DNA Family Group #5:
The
West and Ficklin Families
A portion of the map: A Survey of
the Northern Neck of Virginia, being the Lands belonging to the R. Honourable
Thomas Lord Fairfax Baron Cameron, bounded by & within the Bay of
Chefapoyocke and between the Rivers Rappahannock and Potowmack with the Courfes
of the Rivers Rappahannock and Potowmack in Virginia as surveyed according to
Order in the Years 1736 & 1737. (Source: Library of Congress.)
Allied
Families
As I was looking for data on one of our
West DNA Family Group #5 ancestors, I discovered new information about an
“allied” family—the Ficklins. An allied
family is generally connected by marriage. We may see these names linked to our
family in legal documents, migrations, or family traditions—even if there was
no intermarriage.
West
and Ficklin Connections
Ignatius West was probably a brother to John West and Thomas West. Both John and Thomas
West are part of West FG#5 through their descendants (DNA participants W270 and
W299). West Family researcher Ron Roy did an extensive study of deeds and other
records. He cautions that although the timelines fit almost perfectly, nothing
is absolutely proven. This is why I used the word “probably” to suggest the
relationship.
Ignatius West married Patience Ficklin,
perhaps in the early 1740s. Patience Ficklin was born about 1722. She was the
daughter of William and Sarah Ficklin of King George County, VA. William Ficklin
was the immigrant ancestor of this Ficklin Family. He lived on his leased
property in King George County until his death in about 1756.
Between 1742 and 1746, brothers John and
Thomas West lived in Stafford County, VA. In 1745, Ignatius West appeared in a legal
record that referred to him as “Ignatius West of King George County, Planter.” In
1756, Ignatius and Patience were listed in a King George County deed, along with
Ficklin family members. In 1770, Ignatius and Patience West were living in
Stafford County. In 1791, Ignatius West’s Will was recorded in Faquier County,
VA, adjacent to Stafford County. Patience is not mentioned in the Will.
In 1781, a nephew of Ignatius and
Patience—Thomas Ficklin—migrated from Fredericksburg, VA to the area of today’s
Lexington, KY. In 1784, another nephew of Ignatius and Patience—Edward
West—migrated from Fredericksburg (or Falmouth) to the same place. I wondered
if this was a coincidence.
The
Northern Neck of Virginia
Where did the Wests and Ficklins live in
the 1740s? I decided to narrow down the geographic region.
The blue rectangle on the map, above, is
the result. The map shows the Northern Neck of Virginia—land that lies between
the Rappahannock River and the Potomac River. The Northern Neck is only about
15 to 20 miles wide, and runs in between the two rivers for about 100 miles.
County bounties changed regularly during
the 1700s. On the map you can see the boundaries of 1736/1737. Stafford, King
George, Prince William, and Westmoreland Counties were north of the Rappahannock River. Orange, Spotsylvania, and Caroline
Counties were south of the Rappahannock
River. In the 1740s, both West and Ficklin families lived north of the
Rappahannock River.
I searched for three places with
Google’s map feature:
(1) Aquia,
VA. John and Thomas West were listed
in the Overwharton Parish records in the 1740s. The parish church was located
near Aquia, Stafford County, Virginia. This church was about 12 miles northeast
of Fredericksburg.
(2) Sealston,
VA. William Ficklin’s land was
located near Lambs Creek Church in Sealston, King George County, VA. This
church was built in 1769 on the site of Muddy Creek Church (established in 1717).
Unfortunately, no church records exist. The church was 12 miles east of
Fredericksburg.
(3) Fredericksburg
and Falmouth, VA. Fredericksburg is
on the south side of the Rappahannock River. It is not in the Northern Neck of
Virginia. It was in Spotsylvania County, so it is not written on the old map. Falmouth
is across the river from Fredericksburg. In the 1740s, Falmouth was in King
George County, but today is in Stafford County. The grandson of Edward West said
his family came from Falmouth.
Migration
to Kentucky in the 1780s
Thomas Ficklin
was born about 1750 in King George County, VA and died after 1810 in Kentucky.
He was the son of William Ficklin, Jr., Patience’s brother. Thomas Ficklin
married Mary Herndon. “Herndon” is another one of our allied families. He moved
to Bryan’s Fort (Lexington, KY area) with a large group of people from Spotsylvania
Upper Baptist Church. (This Baptist Church was about 12 miles southwest of
Fredericksburg.) Two of Thomas’ brothers also moved to Kentucky. Ficklin was
one of the founders of Great Crossing Baptist Church in Georgetown, KY (1785).
Edward
West (b. ca. 1730s; d. 1791) was the
son of John West, who was probably Ignatius West’s brother. Edward was married
to Elizabeth Mills in 1752. In 1784, they came to the area of Lexington, KY (near
Georgetown). Most of their grown sons and their families relocated at the same
time. He brought his nephew, Lynn West. Edward West owned a large amount of
land in this new frontier. He was a gunsmith by trade.
I’d like to believe that the two families
kept in contact in Virginia and Kentucky. There is a very high probability that
this generation of Kentucky Wests and Ficklins knew each other. Joseph Ficklin,
a descendant, was the postmaster in Lexington in 1828. Edward West, Jr. was a
highly regarded silversmith and inventor.
Both families knew John Bradford, the
founder of the Kentucky Gazette. Bradford
was among the settlers at Bryan’s Fort. Edward West, Jr. lived across the
street from John Bradford in Lexington. A West married into the Bradford family
in 1818. There were probably business connections and maybe church connections
between the Wests and Ficklins. But did they know their family connection?
Today’s
Fredericksburg
All of the places mentioned in this article (including
the References) are part of the Fredericksburg greater-metropolitan area today. Each is less than 30 miles away from the city’s
center. What seemed so far apart in the 1740s is easy to reach today. A modern
map that gives perspective is:
Regional
Map: Fredericksburg, Spotsylvania, and Stafford
(Source: Greater Fredericksburg Tourism Partnership,
2015)
References
and Additional Information
Ron Roy’s extensive research on the Thomas and
Ignatius West is summarized in the blog articles:
Ignatius West of King George & Stafford
Counties VA
Thomas West of Virginia
It is possible that most of the West deeds relating to Orange
and Spotsylvania Counties are in near-proximity to Fredericksburg. As an
example: In a deed of 1740, Thomas West bought land from Jos. Brock of St.
George’s Parish in Spotsylvania County. St. George’s Parish was a land
designation—today it is called Fredericksburg. In records of 1745 and 1752,
Sherwood James and Ignatius West are mentioned together in lands of “deeds of
lease and release” at Black Walnut Run, Orange County, VA. The location of this
is near Rhoadesville, VA, approximately 26 miles west of Fredericksburg.
John West of Stafford County, VA and some of his
descendants were addressed in my articles:
John
West (d. ca. 1744)
James
West (b. 26 Sep 1742; d. ca. 1780)
Lynn
West (b. 1775; d. 26 Jan 1836)
Edward
West (b. ca. 1730s; d. ca. 1791)
Edward
West (b. 1757; d. 23 Aug 1827)
William
Edward West (b. 10 Dec 1788; d. 2 Nov 1857)
Ficklin Family data came from various sources.
The primary source (in addition to original County documents) is:
Walter
Homan Ficklin, 1912: A Genealogical
History of the Ficklin Family, from the First of the Name in America to the
Present Time, with some Account of the Family in England, The W.H. Kistler
Press, Denver, Colorado.
Atlas of Historical County Boundaries. This site
has interactive maps that show the changes in County boundaries.
The Ten Thousand Name Petition. The 10,000 Name Petition of 1775-1776 called
for an end to religious persecution of Baptists in Virginia. It was signed by
Baptists, but also by sympathizers of all faiths and non-affiliated citizens as
well. The original has been digitized by the Library of Congress. In 1998, it
was transcribed by Jean Pickett Hall for the Virginia Genealogical Historical Quarterly, in Volumes 35 and 36.
Thomas
Ficklin signed with other members of the Spotsylvania Upper Baptist Church.
This was about 12 miles southwest of Fredericksburg. Today it is Craigs Baptist
Church, Spotsylvania, VA. This is on page 87 of the original signed document.
Edward
West and Ignatius West are found on page 95 of the document. There is no church
designation. However, sixteen of the names on that page (including Edward West)
were original founders of Hartwood Baptist Church (in 1771) of Stafford County.
The church was located about seven miles northwest of Fredericksburg. Unfortunately,
in 1778, West was excommunicated from his church “for holding erroneous
doctrines.” Hartwood Church was founded by former members of the Chappawamsic
Baptist Church. Edward West and his family were members of that church in the
1760s.
Sunday, September 1, 2013
Ignatius West in Virginia
I have a small bit to contribute regarding research on our Wests in Virginia. Back in May I ordered 2 additional microfilms from LDS for Orange Co VA: 1) #33016 Deed Books 15 & 16, 1768-1778. 2) #33017 – Birth Records 1751-1778.
Firstly, the Birth Records were a waste of time, effort, and money as they only showed two families, neither being Wests or other known associated families. I sometimes wish there was a way for patrons to leave comments/evaluations for these microfilm. It would be great to review their contents before ordering.
I knew that the deed records on the other microfilm had a specific deed in which we were interested. Ignatius West sold land in which we had previously found a record for his purchase in 1746. Perhaps I should give a little more background information.
About a year ago I was researching a Thomas West who appeared in some records of Orange Co, VA between 1746 and 1753. The only tie that I could find between this Thomas West and ‘our’ Thomas West was the fact that the name Ignatius West also appeared in Orange Co records beginning at the same time. The first mention of this Ignatius West was in 1746 when Ignatius West of King George Co, VA purchased 527 acres of land from James Shorwood (or perhaps Shorwood James).
I knew from deed indices that Ignatius sold this land to William Strother in 1776. However, I wanted to find out if Ignatius West removed from King George Co to Orange Co before he sold the land. In fact, the deed showed that Ignatius West and Patience, his wife, lived in the VA county of Stafford on the date of the deed, 24 Sept 1770.
There have been several other records found showing that an Ignatius West lived in Stafford Co, VA. This deed shows the probability that the Ignatius of King George and the Ignatius of Stafford were probably one and the same person. Some of the Stafford County Records include a 1776 “Ten-thousand Name Petition” which also lists Edward West. Although this petition does not designate in which county of Virginia the petitioners resided, there seemed to be many on that page from Stafford County. Another record for Ignatius would be his appearance on a listing of members of Chopawamsic Baptist Church showing their intention to split and create a church in Stafford Co in 1766. (The original church may have been located in Fauquier County. Since there was another Ignatius West of Fauquier Co, I’m not sure if the Chopawamsic records shows that these are two separate Ignatius Wests, or that the Ignatius of Fauquier and Stafford are the same, also.) There were other Wests on this list including Edward West and James West who appear to be sons of John West of Stafford Co whose descendants are members of our Thomas West’s DNA group.
It appears that I have exhausted all the leads and hints which surfaced in our initial findings of a Thomas West in Spotsylvania and Stafford Counties in Virginia more than a year ago. As I looked back on our discussions of our findings on this site, I found that there were 7 or 8 different discussions documenting and discussing those findings. Perhaps in the next several days I will start a new discussion to summarize those findings and provide links to those older discussions for details.
- Submitted by Ron Roy on the West, Fike MyFamily.com site (addressed to Kevin)
Firstly, the Birth Records were a waste of time, effort, and money as they only showed two families, neither being Wests or other known associated families. I sometimes wish there was a way for patrons to leave comments/evaluations for these microfilm. It would be great to review their contents before ordering.
I knew that the deed records on the other microfilm had a specific deed in which we were interested. Ignatius West sold land in which we had previously found a record for his purchase in 1746. Perhaps I should give a little more background information.
About a year ago I was researching a Thomas West who appeared in some records of Orange Co, VA between 1746 and 1753. The only tie that I could find between this Thomas West and ‘our’ Thomas West was the fact that the name Ignatius West also appeared in Orange Co records beginning at the same time. The first mention of this Ignatius West was in 1746 when Ignatius West of King George Co, VA purchased 527 acres of land from James Shorwood (or perhaps Shorwood James).
I knew from deed indices that Ignatius sold this land to William Strother in 1776. However, I wanted to find out if Ignatius West removed from King George Co to Orange Co before he sold the land. In fact, the deed showed that Ignatius West and Patience, his wife, lived in the VA county of Stafford on the date of the deed, 24 Sept 1770.
There have been several other records found showing that an Ignatius West lived in Stafford Co, VA. This deed shows the probability that the Ignatius of King George and the Ignatius of Stafford were probably one and the same person. Some of the Stafford County Records include a 1776 “Ten-thousand Name Petition” which also lists Edward West. Although this petition does not designate in which county of Virginia the petitioners resided, there seemed to be many on that page from Stafford County. Another record for Ignatius would be his appearance on a listing of members of Chopawamsic Baptist Church showing their intention to split and create a church in Stafford Co in 1766. (The original church may have been located in Fauquier County. Since there was another Ignatius West of Fauquier Co, I’m not sure if the Chopawamsic records shows that these are two separate Ignatius Wests, or that the Ignatius of Fauquier and Stafford are the same, also.) There were other Wests on this list including Edward West and James West who appear to be sons of John West of Stafford Co whose descendants are members of our Thomas West’s DNA group.
It appears that I have exhausted all the leads and hints which surfaced in our initial findings of a Thomas West in Spotsylvania and Stafford Counties in Virginia more than a year ago. As I looked back on our discussions of our findings on this site, I found that there were 7 or 8 different discussions documenting and discussing those findings. Perhaps in the next several days I will start a new discussion to summarize those findings and provide links to those older discussions for details.
- Submitted by Ron Roy on the West, Fike MyFamily.com site (addressed to Kevin)
Monday, August 5, 2013
Thomas West of Virginia
Summary of Records for Thomas West of Spotsylvania/Stafford County And Thomas West of Orange Co
In the quest to find our Thomas West in ANY records in Virginia, one of our most promising leads to date originated from a deed record found by Penny Hardaway in which a Thomas West and his wife Catherine of Stafford Co, VA, sold 250 acres of land in Spotsylvania Co, VA in 1744. Additional searching provided the timeline of records below. Even though we do not know that the Thomas West listed in the deed record is our Thomas West, we did find some VERY interesting links which will be explained below this group of records.
1740 – A Thomas West witnessed several deeds in Spotsylvania Co, VA [Virginia County Records, Spotsylvania County 1721-1800 Transcriptions]
1740 – Oct 6 – Thomas West of Spotsylvania Co purchased 250 ac from Jos Brock of Spts Co. [Virginia County Records, Spotsylvania County 1721-1800]
1740 – Oct – Thomas West of Spotsylvania Co Summoned to Grand Jury [Unknown source, but probably Order Book Abstracts of Spotsylvania County, Virginia / Ruth & Sam Sparacio 1724-1742.]
1743 – Mar 12 – Thomas and Catherine West’s daughter Carty born in Stafford Co [Overwharton Parish Register 1720-1760, http://vagenweb.org/
1744 – May 1 – Thomas & Catherine West of Stafford Co sold to Wm Long 250 ac in Spotsylvania Co, VA. [Virginia County Records, Spotsylvania County 1721-1800]
1744 – Nov 4 –Thomas West witnessed will of John West of Stafford Co [Downloaded from the WEST-L Archives on Rootsweb.com].
1746 – Feb 10 – Thomas and Catherine West’s son James born in Stafford Co [Overwharton Parish Register 1720-1760, http://vagenweb.org/
One can find a detailed discussion of the above records posted on our web site at the following link:
http://www.myfamily.
There are three critical and interesting aspects regarding the above records:
1. In 1740 our Thomas West would have been about 22 years old according to our estimate of his age. The age of this Thomas West and our Thomas West seem to fit perfectly. If this were our Thomas West, it may have been his very first records.
2. The 1 May 1744 deed records mentioned that Thomas West’s wife was named Catherine. This record COULD support the family tradition found in Christine Reid’s ‘Small Book’ which stated that, “Katie Eastern married Thomas West.” To find out more about the information presented in the “Small Book”, see the discussion at the following link:
http://www.myfamily.
In addition, many records for a Phillip Eastin and other members of the Eastin family appear in nearby Caroline and Orange Counties. This confirms that a family did exist in the nearby counties that used the surname that was one of the variations of Eastern/Easton/Easti
3. We know that the Thomas West of Spotsylvania Co, VA, migrated to Stafford Co from the above records. However, we do not know that the Thomas West that witnessed John West’s will is the same person. At this time, however, there is no reason to believe that he is not. More importantly, this John West is the same John West whose descendant’s DNA match our Thomas West. See the Group 5 West DNA results at the following link:
http://web.utk.edu/~
Also, for a more information on John West see our discussion on our web site at the following link:
http://www.myfamily.
The 10 Feb 1746 Overwharton Parish Record was the last record found for Thomas West in Stafford County. The records for this timeframe in Stafford County are very sparse. This could be the reason why no additional records have been found. Or, Thomas West could have removed to another county. Searching some of the nearby counties, we found the following list of records in Orange County, Virginia. Orange Co, VA was created in 1734 from Spotsylvania and lies just to the northwest of Spotsylvania, only about 5-10 miles from Stafford Co, across a small strip of King George Co. Keep in mind that we have no connection between the Thomas West of Stafford Co and the Thomas West of Orange Co other than items listed below the following timeline.
1746 – Thomas West vs Thomas Duncan in Orange Co Court index. [Orange Co, VA Gen Index to Orders & Minutes, Books 1-2]
1746 – Oct 12 – West Ignatius of King George Co purchases 527 acres in Orange Co, VA, from James Shorwood, book 10 pg. 296-7. [Bk 10 p 296 Orange Co, Deed Index and Abstract from 1658-1758 Charles County MD Families "The first 100 years", WorldConnect Family Tree by Mike Marshall].
1749 – Sept 28 – Thomas West begins road orders in Orange Co as a member of group to clear road [Orange Co, VA Gen Index to Orders & Minutes, Books 1-2]
1750 – July 26 – Thomas West appointed overseer of road in Orange Co [Orange County Road Orders 1750-1800 by Ann Brush Miller PDF from http://vtrc.virginia
1750 – Oct – Thomas West to be prosecuted for tending seconds. [Orange County Order & Minute books, LDS Microfilm #33037]
1751 – Jan 24 – Thomas West appointed overseer of high way in Orange Co (Road orders say 1750, but I believe written incorrectly) [Orange County Road Orders 1750-1800 by Ann Brush Miller PDF from http://vtrc.virginia
1751 – Thomas West vs Lawrence Strother (Estate?). [Orange County Order & Minute books, LDS Microfilm #33037]
1751 – Nov 29 – Thomas West received 30 lbs of tobacco for setting up sign post. This is last appearance on road orders in Orange Co [Orange County Road Orders 1750-1800 by Ann Brush Miller PDF from http://vtrc.virginia
1752 – Thomas West Listed in the titheables of Orange County [Orange County, Virginia Tithables 1734-1782, Barbara Vines Little. Lookup by Lib of VA]
1753 – Feb 22 –John Underwood appointed overseer of road in room of Thomas West in Orange Co. [Orange County Road Orders 1750-1800 by Ann Brush Miller PDF from http://vtrc.virginia
1753 – Apr 26 – Francis Taliafero against Estate of Thomas West in Orange Co. (dismissed) [Orange County Order & Minute books, Microfilm #33037]. This and the following records show that there were at least two Thomas Wests in Orange Co, VA during this time. One had died by 1753.
1753 – Apr 26 – William Hunter against Estate of Thomas West in Orange Co. [Orange County Order & Minute books, LDS Microfilm #33037].
1753 – Apr 26 – Thomas McCredie against Thomas West in Orange Co. (dismissed) [Orange County Order & Minute books, LDS Microfilm #33037].
1753 – Apr? 26? – Thomas West found guilty of tending seconds in Orange Co. [Orange County Order & Minute books, LDS Microfilm #33037].
1755 – Ignatius West awarded 184 Lbs of tobacco for serving as a witness for John Foshee in a suit against William Hust in Orange Co. for “four days attendance at this court & coming out of Culpeper County fourteen miles twice” [Orange County Order & Minute books, LDS Microfilm #33037]. Not sure if this Ignatius is the same as the one owning land in Orange Co or any of the other known Ignatius Wests.
1776 – Oct 24 Deed recorded in Orange Co Deed Book & court records in which Ignatius and Patience West of Stafford Co sells land in Orange Co, VA to William Strother. [LDS Microfilm #33016 – Deed Book 15 & 16, Orange Co, VA]
There seems to be only two minor details in the above records of Orange County that could POSSIBLY link this Thomas West to the Thomas West of Stafford County or to our Thomas West:
1. The existence of records for an Ignatius West seems to link this Thomas West of Orange Co to our group of Wests as the name Ignatius seems to be so prevalent in our group of Wests. The fact that this Ignatius was of King George Co when he purchased the land and then of Stafford Co when he sold it could be a possible link to the Wests of Stafford County.
2. The smooth connection of the time lines between the last record in Stafford and the first record in Orange County seems to link the two Thomas Wests together. At the very least, it is no reason to eliminate them from consideration of being the same person. The same statement (regarding the smooth connection of timelines) could be said about the Thomas West of Orange (who seemed to disappear from Orange Co records in 1753) and our Thomas West (who was first found on the 1754 Granville Co, NC, tax List).
This last record exhausts all of the available microfilm and Internet related records I have found for Thomas West at this time. Below I have listed the remaining detailed discussions on the West Family web site for Orange County records. I look forward to any comments regarding the above records or my opinions regarding their connections.
First group of records for Thomas West of Orange Co
http://www.myfamily.
Ignatius West of King George
http://www.myfamily.
Update on Thomas West of Orange
http://www.myfamily.
Another Update on Thomas West of Orange
http://www.myfamily.
Thomas West in Orange Co Court Orders
http://www.myfamily.
Land sale for Ignatius West of Stafford Co, formerly of King George Co
http://www.myfamily.
1740 – A Thomas West witnessed several deeds in Spotsylvania Co, VA [Virginia County Records, Spotsylvania County 1721-1800 Transcriptions]
1740 – Oct 6 – Thomas West of Spotsylvania Co purchased 250 ac from Jos Brock of Spts Co. [Virginia County Records, Spotsylvania County 1721-1800]
1740 – Oct – Thomas West of Spotsylvania Co Summoned to Grand Jury [Unknown source, but probably Order Book Abstracts of Spotsylvania County, Virginia / Ruth & Sam Sparacio 1724-1742.]
1743 – Mar 12 – Thomas and Catherine West’s daughter Carty born in Stafford Co [Overwharton Parish Register 1720-1760, http://vagenweb.org/
1744 – May 1 – Thomas & Catherine West of Stafford Co sold to Wm Long 250 ac in Spotsylvania Co, VA. [Virginia County Records, Spotsylvania County 1721-1800]
1744 – Nov 4 –Thomas West witnessed will of John West of Stafford Co [Downloaded from the WEST-L Archives on Rootsweb.com].
1746 – Feb 10 – Thomas and Catherine West’s son James born in Stafford Co [Overwharton Parish Register 1720-1760, http://vagenweb.org/
One can find a detailed discussion of the above records posted on our web site at the following link:
http://www.myfamily.
There are three critical and interesting aspects regarding the above records:
1. In 1740 our Thomas West would have been about 22 years old according to our estimate of his age. The age of this Thomas West and our Thomas West seem to fit perfectly. If this were our Thomas West, it may have been his very first records.
2. The 1 May 1744 deed records mentioned that Thomas West’s wife was named Catherine. This record COULD support the family tradition found in Christine Reid’s ‘Small Book’ which stated that, “Katie Eastern married Thomas West.” To find out more about the information presented in the “Small Book”, see the discussion at the following link:
http://www.myfamily.
In addition, many records for a Phillip Eastin and other members of the Eastin family appear in nearby Caroline and Orange Counties. This confirms that a family did exist in the nearby counties that used the surname that was one of the variations of Eastern/Easton/Easti
3. We know that the Thomas West of Spotsylvania Co, VA, migrated to Stafford Co from the above records. However, we do not know that the Thomas West that witnessed John West’s will is the same person. At this time, however, there is no reason to believe that he is not. More importantly, this John West is the same John West whose descendant’s DNA match our Thomas West. See the Group 5 West DNA results at the following link:
http://web.utk.edu/~
Also, for a more information on John West see our discussion on our web site at the following link:
http://www.myfamily.
The 10 Feb 1746 Overwharton Parish Record was the last record found for Thomas West in Stafford County. The records for this timeframe in Stafford County are very sparse. This could be the reason why no additional records have been found. Or, Thomas West could have removed to another county. Searching some of the nearby counties, we found the following list of records in Orange County, Virginia. Orange Co, VA was created in 1734 from Spotsylvania and lies just to the northwest of Spotsylvania, only about 5-10 miles from Stafford Co, across a small strip of King George Co. Keep in mind that we have no connection between the Thomas West of Stafford Co and the Thomas West of Orange Co other than items listed below the following timeline.
1746 – Thomas West vs Thomas Duncan in Orange Co Court index. [Orange Co, VA Gen Index to Orders & Minutes, Books 1-2]
1746 – Oct 12 – West Ignatius of King George Co purchases 527 acres in Orange Co, VA, from James Shorwood, book 10 pg. 296-7. [Bk 10 p 296 Orange Co, Deed Index and Abstract from 1658-1758 Charles County MD Families "The first 100 years", WorldConnect Family Tree by Mike Marshall].
1749 – Sept 28 – Thomas West begins road orders in Orange Co as a member of group to clear road [Orange Co, VA Gen Index to Orders & Minutes, Books 1-2]
1750 – July 26 – Thomas West appointed overseer of road in Orange Co [Orange County Road Orders 1750-1800 by Ann Brush Miller PDF from http://vtrc.virginia
1750 – Oct – Thomas West to be prosecuted for tending seconds. [Orange County Order & Minute books, LDS Microfilm #33037]
1751 – Jan 24 – Thomas West appointed overseer of high way in Orange Co (Road orders say 1750, but I believe written incorrectly) [Orange County Road Orders 1750-1800 by Ann Brush Miller PDF from http://vtrc.virginia
1751 – Thomas West vs Lawrence Strother (Estate?). [Orange County Order & Minute books, LDS Microfilm #33037]
1751 – Nov 29 – Thomas West received 30 lbs of tobacco for setting up sign post. This is last appearance on road orders in Orange Co [Orange County Road Orders 1750-1800 by Ann Brush Miller PDF from http://vtrc.virginia
1752 – Thomas West Listed in the titheables of Orange County [Orange County, Virginia Tithables 1734-1782, Barbara Vines Little. Lookup by Lib of VA]
1753 – Feb 22 –John Underwood appointed overseer of road in room of Thomas West in Orange Co. [Orange County Road Orders 1750-1800 by Ann Brush Miller PDF from http://vtrc.virginia
1753 – Apr 26 – Francis Taliafero against Estate of Thomas West in Orange Co. (dismissed) [Orange County Order & Minute books, Microfilm #33037]. This and the following records show that there were at least two Thomas Wests in Orange Co, VA during this time. One had died by 1753.
1753 – Apr 26 – William Hunter against Estate of Thomas West in Orange Co. [Orange County Order & Minute books, LDS Microfilm #33037].
1753 – Apr 26 – Thomas McCredie against Thomas West in Orange Co. (dismissed) [Orange County Order & Minute books, LDS Microfilm #33037].
1753 – Apr? 26? – Thomas West found guilty of tending seconds in Orange Co. [Orange County Order & Minute books, LDS Microfilm #33037].
1755 – Ignatius West awarded 184 Lbs of tobacco for serving as a witness for John Foshee in a suit against William Hust in Orange Co. for “four days attendance at this court & coming out of Culpeper County fourteen miles twice” [Orange County Order & Minute books, LDS Microfilm #33037]. Not sure if this Ignatius is the same as the one owning land in Orange Co or any of the other known Ignatius Wests.
1776 – Oct 24 Deed recorded in Orange Co Deed Book & court records in which Ignatius and Patience West of Stafford Co sells land in Orange Co, VA to William Strother. [LDS Microfilm #33016 – Deed Book 15 & 16, Orange Co, VA]
There seems to be only two minor details in the above records of Orange County that could POSSIBLY link this Thomas West to the Thomas West of Stafford County or to our Thomas West:
1. The existence of records for an Ignatius West seems to link this Thomas West of Orange Co to our group of Wests as the name Ignatius seems to be so prevalent in our group of Wests. The fact that this Ignatius was of King George Co when he purchased the land and then of Stafford Co when he sold it could be a possible link to the Wests of Stafford County.
2. The smooth connection of the time lines between the last record in Stafford and the first record in Orange County seems to link the two Thomas Wests together. At the very least, it is no reason to eliminate them from consideration of being the same person. The same statement (regarding the smooth connection of timelines) could be said about the Thomas West of Orange (who seemed to disappear from Orange Co records in 1753) and our Thomas West (who was first found on the 1754 Granville Co, NC, tax List).
This last record exhausts all of the available microfilm and Internet related records I have found for Thomas West at this time. Below I have listed the remaining detailed discussions on the West Family web site for Orange County records. I look forward to any comments regarding the above records or my opinions regarding their connections.
First group of records for Thomas West of Orange Co
http://www.myfamily.
Ignatius West of King George
http://www.myfamily.
Update on Thomas West of Orange
http://www.myfamily.
Another Update on Thomas West of Orange
http://www.myfamily.
Thomas West in Orange Co Court Orders
http://www.myfamily.
Land sale for Ignatius West of Stafford Co, formerly of King George Co
http://www.myfamily.
- Compiled & submitted Ron Roy
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